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FCI JOINT COMMISSION

Mactan Island, Cebu Philippines

Only working together will make it work!

1. Welcome!

FCI Show Judges Commission Members

Website APAC

 

APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA OF THE JOINT MEETING

  • Opening and Welcome
  • Minutes 2015
  • Decisions of the FCI Board
  • Entrance of dogs belonging to judges’ partners
  • Non FCI Judges following FCI regulations?
  • NCO following FCI rules and regulations
  • How to handle aggressive dogs?
  • Indicating country of nomination with the judge’s name
  • How to use digital technology?
  • Behavior of judges and what organizers can ask for
  • Number of dogs to judge per day
  • Composition of judges panel at a World/Section show
  • Changing standards and our input (new)
  • Topics from Shows and Show Judges Commissions
    • Working on a online Dog Show Program
    • Working on a voting procedure for board commission
    • Next meetings
    • Sundries
    • Closure

2. Minutes of the Meeting
in Luxembourg in 2015

 

  • Proposal to approve the minutes

3. Evaluation of the FCI Board
Decisions

 

  • New phrasing in the dog show regulations regarding the “on-line catalogues” and how to control? Our proposal: Publishing on-line catalogues only on the day of the show, never more than two hours before. FCI BOARD: AGREED.

 

  • To recommend judges, stewards and organizers ask handlers not to exaggerate in baiting their dogs when being examined and placed. Our proposal: publish a circular regarding this. FCI BOARD: TURNS DOWN THE PROPOSAL. It’s up to each judge to inform the handlers

 

 

4. Entrance of Dogs Belonging to Partners and Family of Judges

 

  • Chapter 11 of the FCI Judges Regulations: “A partner, any member of his immediate familily or any person living in his household may enter dogs of breeds……which this judge is not judging on that day of the show”

 

  • What to do about partners that have entered a dog and accompany judges at the dinner the evening before of the show?
  • What to do with judges who ask for judging fee and refunding their expenses although the partner has entered the other day?

 

  • DISCUSSION: Should we ammend the regulations in such a way that a partner, any member of his immediate familily or any person living in his household, is NOT allowed to enter dog(s) at all at a show where the judge concerned is acting as a judge?

 

 

5. FCI Regulations for Non-FCI Judges

  • Topic from Norsk Kennel Klubben (NKK)
  • Experience regarding Non FCI Judges not following the FCI regulations
  • FCI and NON FCI judges at FCI Show should be treated equally but should also have the same rights and obligations

 

  • Proposal to add to Chapter 1 “Basics” in the FCI Dogs Show Regulatons:

     “The rules regarding the general duties of a show judge,      his travel, insurance and his behavior mentioned in     the FCI Show Judges Regulations also affect the judges    coming from other than FCI countries. They have to   follow these rules when officiating at the FCI         International Dog Shows”.

 

6. Following the FCI Regulations

  • Topic coming from the FCI Board
  • Desicion regarding Judging Fee not being followed by VDH
    • Motivation Germany VDH
      • Why only for EU section, World and EU Shows
      • Equal for ALL (all shows and other judges) and all voluntary people

 

  • What is our opinion
  • Our advice to the FCI Board

 

 

7. How to Handle Aggressive Dogs

  • Some countries have rules regarding the way they handle aggressive dogs. Some do not have them!
  • Disqualification only at the moment but no further action taken because of lack of regulations

 

  • The Netherlands: no rules saying that a dog can be banned on showing
  • Sweden: they have rules and can ban dogs

 

  • WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER COUNTRIES?
  • Can we propose “regulations” that can be used by the FCI countries?
  • Do we have to develop them as guidelines or as obligatory rules?

 

8. Judge and a Country of Nomination

 

  • People sometimes become a judge in the country where they do not live
  • This person does not appear on the list of judges of the country where he is living
  • However on the judges list of a dog show this person appears on the list with the country of living behind the name
  • Not correct because country of living is not responsible for this nomination

 

  • We propose to add some text to regulations

8. Judge and a Country of Nomination

 

  • Proposal to ADD to Chapter 10 “FCI Dog Shows Regulation” the following sentence:
    • “k. All publications of a judge officiating at a show must be with the country on which this judge appears on the list of licensed judges”.

9. Digital Technology and Judging

 

  • Topic coming from Colombia
  • Digital technology in the rings gets more and more important
  • Use of tablets
  • Is the judge still able to see if his qualifications, placements and titles are also published properly?
  • Tablet / Laptop à Organizer  Website / Public
  • Judge is not in charge anymore?

 

  • How can this be controlled?
  • Should we develop rules in which it is stated that a judge – at all times – has to sign a paper with all the results of his judging?

 

 

10. Behavior of Judges

  • Sometimes visitors and exhibitors are irritated by the way judges act in a ring
    • Sitting while judging
    • Judges using cruces frightening dogs
    • Talking with people outside the ring
  • Is it good to try to develop some rules?
    • A judge too has to be fit for his function!
  • Also regarding the behavior of some judges in the ring.

   How to handle this? Are there any sanctions and/or do we need them?

11. Number of dogs per day

  • Coming from PCCI
  • 1st Proposal: Define the following (for the guidance and for purpose of order)
    • Number of minimum dogs witout critique, we suggest 30 dogs/hour (2 minutes per dog)
    • Half a day: we suggest minimum of 3 hours, maximum 4 hours
    • Whole day: we suggest more than 4 hours, not exceeding 10
  • 2nd Proposal: Increase the number of dogs to be judged with critiques
    • To 120 per day (coming from 80/day). Force majeur is 140 dogs
  • 3rd Proposal: Increase the number of dogs to be judged without critiques
    • To 210 dogs (7 hours) or force majeur 240 dogs (8 hours)

12. Number of Judges at World and Section Shows

 

  • Coming from PCCI

 

  • Present rule: “…at least 2/3 of the invited judges in the panel have to be judges approved by an FCI-NO…at least one judge from each section should be invited”.

 

  • PROPOSAL:
  • Hosting NO 20 %
  • Hosting Section 30 %
  • Remaining sections 20 %
  • Others 30 %

12. Number of Judges at World and Section Shows

 

 

  • Example: 120 judges at a World Show

 

 

 

13. Changing standards

 

  • Initiative from country of origin
  • Coming from Standard and Scientific Commission

 

  • NO communication with Show Judges Commission

 

  • NO advise from Show Judges Commission
  • Changing Breed Standards affect judging, showing, breeding

 

  • Are we just the “followers” or are we also “advisers”?
  • How to handle this?
  • How to use these changings? Completely / in Phases?

 

 

 

13. Changing Standards

  • EXAMPLE: DOBERMANN
  • From 1-1-2015
  • Docked dogs not according to the standard anymore

 

 

 

 

 

 

  • 3 Different standards for ONE breed (FCI / KC / AKC)
  • It affects shows
  • It affects showing
  • It affects breeding

 

 

13. Changing standards

 

  • What can we do to take part in the discussions regarding big changes of Breed Standards? Proposal to the FCI?

 

  • What can we do to make the FCI reconsider the approval of the changing of the standard of the Dobermann, this for the benefit of the breed development in the countries were docking and cropping is still allowed.

14. Topics from yesterday!

 

 

  • Working on an basiv International Dog Show Program

 

 

  • Working on a voting procedure for the Board of our commissions

14.1 Dog Show Program

 

  • Working out an International Dog Show Program, together with the FCI Board

 

  • To finish a proposal work out a action plan about our basis and further needs for this Program
  • Inform our members and then develop the definite version
  • Then discuss this action plan with the FCI board to find out the costs to develop such a Program
  • Come back with the conclusion

 

  • Develop a Working Group of the Boards of both commissions and add to this Wielfred Olsen (DK)

14.2 Voting Procedure

 

  • Working out a proposal for the voting procedure of our Boards
  • On the Agenda for 2017
  • Implementation “elections 2018”

 

  • Some thoughts
    • Candidates known 2 months before
    • Period not 2 but 4 years
    • Open and/or secret votes and/or voting by applaus…and when (1 or more candidates
    • Spread over the sections and how to do this (we have 5 FCI sections)

 

15. Next Meetings

 

  • 2017 Sochi, Russia (February 4th and 5th 2017)

 

  • 2018 Madeira, Portugal (February 24th and 25th 2018)

 

  • 2019 To be chosen today

15. Next meeting 2017

 

  • Sochi, Russia
  • Saturday the 4th and Sunday the 5th of February 2017

16. Sundries

17. Closu